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you look at, 62% of kids that go to college with faith commitment, leave without it. >> every spring the toilets explode. >> i understand why barack obama wants to send every kid to college because there's indoctrina indoctrinated. >> indoctrination mills. absolutely. >> we're not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the united states of america. gentlemen. ♪ shout, shout we begin with rick santorum going the full republican. yes, gingrich can attack the kbleed. ron paul can attack spending but there was one pillar of the liberal establishment that had yet to be bullied into submission. have no fear, saint santorum is here. he's knotgoing do allow president obama to have his will
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and send most kids to the darkest and most ine kwurks itous place on earth, college. >> 62% of kids that go to college with a faith commitment, leave without it. >> indoctrination mills. is that like a puppy mill? how awful. santorum's wife goes a bit further. he says that her husband's ca y cand candidacj our natigod's will toe us from president obama. >> i think there's a lot more happening than when he wha we are seeing. i believe we will lose our nation.
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>> i'm sure glen beck is convin convinced. >> you have senator santorum's views so far to the right with his attitude on women in the workplace and gays and the bestiality comments and birth control, i do not think it's realistic for rick santorum to represent america. >> yikes. that's coming from a guy santorum supported. rick is not so realistic, how about mitt? he wrapped up a major economic address at the ford field situated around the 30-yard line. i guess grand idea of filling a 65,000 feet stadium with screaming fans want a good idea.
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he came pumped and primed with his i am presidential play book. >> i believe that despite the challenge that we have, if we have a president that will tell the truth and live with integrity and knows how to lead, who likes cars. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, we know he likes cars. we know that romney was from michigan before he was from massachusetts, before he was from new hampshire and sometimes california. last night he once again hiked his hometown roots. >> i was born in detroit. our home was right around six mile and woodward. michigan has been suffering a recession and that recession spilled out across the entire station. as goes general motors, so goes the nation. there seems to be some truth to that. >> there is some truth to that and general motors, rescued by there president, check out this headline from this month. general motors profit could
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reach new highs. 7.6 billion in 2011. almost all of it in north america. well done mr. romney. you just sold america and michigan on president obama's greatest american success story. to be fair, at least the romneys are doing their part and mrs. romney in particular. >> detroit made automobiles. i drive a mustang and a chev quick pickup truck and ann drives a couple of cadillacs actually. >> romney's campaign staff might want to tell him to stop talking. we've got a fantastic friday panel with us. dr. peterson, i must start with you. which is it, do you work innen
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elitist ivory tower or dark satanic mill? >> i would say neither. this is an interesting arrange of things that the republican party is now been addressing over the last several weeks. i'm calling this the politics. they want to have a hedge amount of relationship with women and women's body. now they're going after education full on here and trying to sort of accuse institutions of higher learning as being indoctrinations. which of these candidates did not go to college. >> i was trying to work that out myself. giving what rick santorum said that satan is attacking america and that higher education is a gateway to atheist and contraception. why does he want to become president? why doesn't he just go and live in a monestary.
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>> the attack is a very tried and true thing that the republicans like to go to time and again. what santorum doesn't seem to be able to do is make these points without taking them to the extreme. no matter how hard he tries to make a solid conservative point he has to bring in satan or suggest that college itself is bad thing. he just doesn't seem to be able to hit the right tone. >> he doesn't seem to be able to control himself. we heard from mitt romney offering voluntarily the news that his wife has two cadillacs. is this man incapable of doing anything sensible when he's off script? he appears to be stealing defree throw the jaws of victory. >> you think of the contrast richard nixon talked about his respectable cloth code and he's talking about the cadillacs that his wife owns and you think with john mccain getting in trouble
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when he couldn't tell you how many houses he's had. that's one of the weaknesses exposed pm there's been a real lag in terms of his support with blue collar, middle class voters. it speaks to his potential vulnerability. that gets to michelle's point, santorum's challenge was to take that, he has the social conservative roots, expand it with an economic message and that's a real tough combination. hasn't done it. >> dr. peterson, what do you think that mrs. santorum means when she says that if president obama is elected again, we will lose our nation? >> i have no idea what she means. >> is the president a threat to our civilization in. >> absolutely not. this has to make us wonder what they are really talking about. clearly this president like
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other presidents is deeply invested in the best interest op this country. just because we have political differences and different ways to approach the economy does not mean that one candidate is the devil and one is the sort of deliverance by the grace of god. that kind of politics is very destructive and dangerous. it's quite ignorant. >> indeed. the fight is now on for michigan. even if romney does pull off a win on tuesday, our latest polling has him down 18 points there against the president. i guess that let detroit go bankrupt editorial didn't go over so well, did it? >> there's been a bit of a timing problem for him on a lot of this. the economy is getting better. the bailout seems to be working when he's out there pitching this message that he's got to save the country from obama's economic mislead rship. i think that he'sgoing to have a tough road. the weirder thing is how he's
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turned this into a must win state in the primary. this didn't have to be a do or die. at this point if santorum beat him, romney will have a hard time of saving face after making this a big deal. >> steve, what did you make of arlen spector's comments. a man who supported santorum and there he is saying this man is too extreme? >> i think part of it is he's happy to be back in the news. it's true, it was always sort of an awkward one. they represented polar opposite wings of party. it seemed like much of these are two home state senators that have the best interest of their state in mind. i thought it was weird when santorum was out there backing arlen spector. you had the whole incident with
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spector leaving the party. if he had not left the party like he did in 2010, i don't suspect his name would be as poisonous. >> what do you think of those comments whands do you think santorum's chances are in place like pennsylvania? >> steve is right. politics makes strange bedfellows and spector and santorum is a good show of that. they had to become allies in the interest of their state and the interest that he was a senior, powerful member in the congress. that's how they got together. what's interesting is spector is the real republican here because the republicans have moved to the right. he had to essentially leave the party or get his authenticity card revoked. when we look at politics now,
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there's a lot of folks in pennsylvania that are on the right and love santorum but there's much more moderate thinking folk and much more progressive folk in pennsylvania. we'll see more of that stuff air itself out as the primary moves through pennsylvania areas. >> indeed. thanks so much for joining us today. next, just when you thought they had given up. republican governors double down on war of women. stay with us. >> what a comeback tonight for an american giant, general motors announcing a $7.6 billion profit last year, the biggest in the 103 year history of gm. ♪ [ male announcer ] yep that's your mouth. and it's surprising what it goes through in the course of a day. but what's even more surprising is that brushing alone isn't enough to keep it clean.
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despite polls showing the majority in favor of the president's birth control compromise, republicans are determined to keep this battle alive. in virginia the state senate is expected to vote on a version of its controversial ultrasound bill which still forces a woman to have an ultrasound if she chooses or needs to terminate a pregnancy. before we examine these issues in details we'd like to introduce do you dopey and the a few of the other dwarfs. south carolina. he swears that hundreds of vote by dead people prove the need for voter fraud legislation even after he discovered they were alive. then there's oklahoma attorney general scott pruitt, the only ag in the kun dri to refuse
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foreclosure settlement money for victims suggesting the offer was a power play by the president and lead plaintiff ne attorney general who last year compared welfare recipients to raccoons. it should come as no surprise that they all all seeking to overturn the president's health care act as well. good afternoon, ma'am. >> thank you for having me, martin. >> what's it like being a woman in america where your health choices your very anatomy is fair game to so many republicans? >> actually, i have to tell you, i feel elated right now. we just had a wonderful speak out with a couple hundred overflow crowd of mostly women saying that these men will not have at our bodies, and we're going to take our battle to the
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state legislature, to the congress and to the ballot box. i'm feeling empowered at this moment and i think these men are making a terrible mistake. >> with regard to this decision in virginia where they have gone from mandating a transvaginal probe to ordering an external ult ultrasound, is that an improvement? >> the governor is doing his best to back peddle. they describe it as state rape. that kind of procedure as defined by virginia law is rape according to their on statutes. this issue for women is really a closed case. we had young women, in
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particular, absolutely astonished that there's a challenge to their right to contraception and other. it's been a sleeping giant awakened to the peril of politicians. >> one of the things i keep hearing republicans say is that they want to reduce government. people should not have their lives interrupted by government intervention. yet at the same time in virginia they were considering forcing a probe into a woman's birth canal. is it government probing a woman's vagina and and then destroying the departments of education, commerce and reserve? >> it's not just you that thinks this is absolutely insane and big government at its absolute worst not only wanting to get between a woman and her doctor but get between a woman's knees.
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it's just incredible to virtually all women. >> can you understand my confusion? they keep telling us that government should have no role in our lives. if you listen to ron paul, there wouldn't be institutions of government, federal institutions, and yet at the same time, they are supporting the kind of invasive behavior towards women that many of us as men feel is absolutely repugnant. >> exactly. why don't they see that? that's the thing that is really amazing to so many of us. how can they not see that ultimate of contradictions that we want to shrink government but we want to invade your body. the good news, as i said, most people, most women, get that. a lot of men too. we may be a minority in state legislatures and the congress, but those who see that contradiction and deeply, deeply offended by it, legislature
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being doctors. really, we're going to mandate different procedures. in illinois, some of the women are offering an amendment that men, if they want b to use viagra are going to have to see a film about the side effects that could potentially arise from using viagra. let's see how the gentlemen feel about that. >> i'd hate to imagine how many people in the congress are using viagra. are republicans trying to do in the states what they can't do on a national stage when it comes to birth control? >> oh, yes. i think the backlash, if you will, it's not t going to the states. at every level, i think this is a serious political miscalculatimisca miscalculation aside from it being so patently offensive and probably unconstitutional. yes, i think we're going to see more states stepping up, the men
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stepping up. the attorney's general as you described who have made mistakes in the past aregoing to do it again. i think the real mistake for them, if they care about their political future is that you're going to see the real backlash from the majority of women. >> indeed. thank you for dealing with this issue with such dignity. thank you. >> thank you, martin. stay with us. much more ahead. >> all of us are more at risk today, men and women, boys and girls, than at any time in the history of this country. ♪ ♪ he was a 21st century global nomad ♪ ♪ home was an airport lounge and an ipad ♪ ♪ made sure his credit score did not go bad ♪ ♪ with a free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ app that he had ♪ downloaded it in the himalayas ♪ ♪ while meditating like a true playa ♪
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is that next tuesday the president will have a meeting with the yunited auto workers. it's the same day as the michigan primary. he's been tauting what he did for the auto industry. they still say they would not have bailed out that industry there in the swing state of michigan. >> mike, is it your estimation that the white house is in full electioneering mode? >> reporter: i don't think there's any question about it. there's very little hope or no one can imagine anything more significant happening legislatively in the capitol. there's nothing going to be passing through congress and washington that they are going to be agreeing on. there's no question about it. there are seven fund raisers yesterday between the first lady and the president and other officials. they announced one for new york city next week. >> thank, mike.
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>> it's also ash wednesday. >> the white powder. ♪ baby don't you want to go >> michael viqueira will be performing on saturday night. >> transvaginal ultrasound, those guys are awesome. >> these radicals that are in the white house. >> extremist. >> radical administration. >> the prince of darkness enters the race. >> yes. >> satan, declare war on hell. >> to see what's in here and what's burning down here. >> goodness, we don't know what's burning down there. perhaps he should seek medical attention. >> because least fake. >> define yourself using one word. >> cheerful. >> it's not a lie, if you believe it. >> their three-poinplan for $2 gas. >> you can thot put a gun rack in a volt. >> step one is to drill and step
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two is to drill and step three is to keep drilling. >> is there santorum smoking frack. >> 62% of kids that go onto college with a faith commitment leave without it. >> let's get right to it this afternoon. the one and on melissa. what do you think of rick santorum's view that institutions of higher education or for the indoctrination of demonic evil? >> possibly. only on tuesdays and thursdays. on monday and wednesday i try not to. i think here is what is evil about higher education. that we are less interested in providing information than we are in the skills for analysis. the goal really is the kind of
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kindergarten through 12 grade you learn the fact of how the world works. >> and 18 you stop thinking. >> you start thinking. i'm fan of teaching the traditional stories but once you get to college, part of what college is about is unpacking everything that you learn, analyzing it, pulling it aparking lot. it should be about analyzing and questionings and if you believe that faith means never questioning, then the fact that colleges ask you to question could sound demonic. >> right. yes, okay. moving on. santorums topic that he's raising these issues, particularly prenatal testing of women that may require a termination or thought. one might have thought it would damage him with female voters but in new postit's the exact
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opposite. he's surging amongest women voters. >> among republican women. >> why? >> i think that's really important. i think two reasons. one is the space that republican women have staked out is this traditional role. this notion of it's better to be a woman in a traditional family. to not have to earn -- >> rick santorum said not find fulfillment mt. workplace. >> good look finding a job in the workplace much less fulfillment. i think there's a desire to run to the so called safety of patriarchy. rick santorum can give that. will he surge with democratic women and young women, no. >> let's move onto newt gingrich. we got some insight in how he works fwh his marriage. >> what are you giving up for lent?
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have you decided. >> desserts. all desserts. >> quickly. >> i challenge you to ask what she's giving up. >> i'm giving up my opinion. >> your opinion on her giving up her opinion. >> the unfortunate piece is that's not bad strategy for a political wife who wants to see her husband elected. >> to be mute. >> i'm teaching a course on the first ladies right now in the debt of evil and we're talking about how much criticism first ladies have taken going back to abigail adams for having their own opinion. that's our fault as an american public for expecting them to be quiet. that said, it was ash wednesday. that means for that us in new orleans, it was the remains of m mardi gras. >> that's so kind you think i should put these on?
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>> i do. >> i have been to mardi gras but i've never worn them. they look okay. >> they look lovely. >> just a final question for a moment, jeb bush's name often arises. made some news of his views. i used to be a conservative, and i watch these debates and i'm wondering, i don't think i've changed, but it's a little troubling when people are appealing to people's fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective and that's kind of where we are. that sounds like a reasonable republican. >> there are reasonable republicans left and the whole point is all the republicans looked at this election and said i'm going to wait until 2016 because they don't want to run against president obama. running against an incumbent president is really tough job.
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the jeb bush's of the world have sat it out. i expect we'll see a party that will make us a lot less anxious about the future of america. >> one of the things about that comment, which i find interesting is he's not just critiquing the republican, he almost seems to be saying don't listen to what republicans say about president obama being an extremist, he's very moderate. >> that would be accurate. >> that's what he appears to be saying. >> i think that's right. jeb bush may have an interest in the republican winning this year, but as an individual, he has an interest in president obama winning and leaving an open seat in 2016 when he would be ready to run. >> you think it's that strategic that he's damning the field with praise for the fact he may run. >> i think it's not hard to damn this field with faint praise. that seems like the least difficult thing one could do. the bushes are some of the most
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strategic political minds today, yes. >> thank you so much. thank you for the beads. i believe they have added something to my appearance. again, you can see melissa's broadcast saturday and sunday morning at 10:00 a.m. on msnbc. do not miss it. thank you. next, the search for the perfect returning mate. stay with us. >> we had a home there. it's been bulldozed now because they turned it into a an eyesore or place where drugs were being used. it was a lovely home. i wouldn't do that. get married? no, i wouldn't use that single miles credit card. nice ring.
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attention she received due to her v.p. one. i can't take it, one says. it's a sentiment with which we agree. joining us in arlington, virginia, ken vogel and julian epstein. the v.p. talk has already started. naturally we have some ideas that we like to run buy yoy you. let me toss out a few ideas. for mitt romney, senator rand paul. there's clearly a romance between romney and the father. >> their interest are aligned. i think ron paul and mitt romney both don't like rick santorum and they are both taking shots at him and rick santorum had the speculation after wednesday's debate by pointing out that ron
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paul went after him and is on the air with attack ads in michigan where ron paul is not even campaigning yet the ads are attacking rick santorum undercutting his chance to secure a race shifting win as for rand paul, he's an appealing candidate. he would help mitt romney with an area where he is weak, that being the tea party and those are activists that you need on board. they are the sort of ground troops and the energy and socially the small contribution who would really help mitt romney in the general election. >> okay. julian, for rick santorum, we waen wanted someone with whom could defend us from satan. we chose franklin graham. >> i think the two of them could run as the exorcism presidency and exorcise the hundreds of
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millions of women that use contraception that santorum regards as immoral. i think the push in the primary process is the equivalent if the democrats were to put code pink in charge of our primary. i don't think there's any percentage in republicans for moving to the right. the percentage in moving to the center. for the most part, i think the republicans have been an embarrassment for the exact same reason you spoke about melissa in the same segment. jeb bush's quote that the party is become inward looking, fearful, pushing toward tr religion fundamentalist wing of the party. it's fine, again, if you're just running to be head of the extremist wing of the republican party. it doesn't work in a general election. >> we've gone through mitt romney, santorum. how about newt gingrich and we thought for newt gingrich, v.p.,
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callista. >> that's unlikely. >> you see extremely unlike. she said she's given up her opinion for lent. that's a very good v.p. >> certainly. the alternate argument could be made a strong v.p. is helpful not only on the campaign trail expressing opinions that are sharper than the candidate him or herself is something that's valued in a vice presidential candidate, but newt gingrich would need someone to take the edge off and take the edge off in particular with women voters so possibly a woman. a couple of names are the south carolina governor and the governor of new mexico, both of whom are women but also minorities and could broaden an outreach for rick santorum and
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newt gingrich seem physical therapily narrow as julian said. >> just to pick up on the minority point, i think the more likely scenario is romney does get the nomination and looks at somebody like mark rubio. selecting one like mark rubio than singing "who let the dogs out ♪ as rom did. you also have the possibility of chris christie. as jonathan capehart pointed out on your show yesterday, i think it's quite easy to get under chris christie's skin as jonathan capehart did so aptly yesterday. we like to say there's a lot of room under his skin, but that's another subject. >> thank you. i still think callista is the best v.p. for newt because she
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has to kweep an eye on what shes doing. >> the fact that there's so much humor in this, should tell you something. it's a commentary on the state of republican party right now. more ahead. we have the cnbc market wrap. >> i think i'm going to give up talking about the greek bailout for lent for all things considered there. it's been quite a week in the markets. today rather a still week. the dow industrials are down just a bit about ten points at this hour. doesn't look like they will make a big rush to end the week above 13,000 the the s&p and the nasdaq are a bit higher. the s&p by one point and the nasdaq by about five. we'll end the week, it seems, about 30 points shy of 13,000. see you next week. use campbell's cream of chicken soup to make easy enchiladas,
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we have some breaking news
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at this hour. a republican congressman from oklahoma is having to apologize for insidious and hateful comments made in front of constituents wednesday. listen to what john sullivan had to say about the ongoing budget fight in washington. >> i live with senators. i yell at them all the time. i grabbed one the other day and shook pem thp i would love to get them to vote for that. but other than me going over there with a gun and hold iing to their head and killing one of them, i don't think they are going to listen unless they get beat. >> kelly, his apology was also offensive. he apologized for a poor choice of words but goes on to talk about why the senate won't pass the jobs bill. should he resign? >> the apology is from a spokesperson, not in the voice of the congressman himself. he's from oklahoma.
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he's been in office for several years now. and a poor choice of words is something voters there will have to decide. the last few elections he's won by overwhelming margins. this is the kind of thing that can happen in these off the cuff settings where people can say things that can do real damage to their men repation and offend voters. these things may have been unintended, a poor choice of words is often the explanation that public officials give. >> but kelly, i watched your moving description of gabrielle giffords when she returned to the house. have we learned absolutely nothing from that tragedy? >> that's exactly the kind of contrast that will be even more offensive to people who heard these comments. this is not the kind of language that either party wants to see occur because of the environment we're in now where there's been so much rhetoric that's ratcheted up and the real-world
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life-changing consequences of what took place in arizona last year. so there will be fallout from this. the apology from his office. perhaps constituents will want more from him. it's the kind of comment that can follow someone for sure. >> finally kelly, do you expect his own party to discipline him in some way? >> these things can take place where you have the fight over what is appropriate behavior? and they do say they want to hold members to a higher standard. so it is the kind of thing that the house could look at for some sort of disciplinary action. then there's the free speech argument that people can say things. we'll have to see how the officials react to it. it's the kind of thing that certainly republican leadership would not want to shine more attention to. >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is lawn ranger -- eden prairie, minnesota.
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it's it time now to clear the air. and with nine primaries thus far, many people expected mitt romney to be virtually confirmed as the republican nominee by the time of the academy awards which take place this sunday. while he's been called the inevitable candidate, he has yet to be crowned. in fact, he's won less than half the contests. we were wondering if mitt romney would fair any better at the oscars. just today, he could have been entered for best adapted screen play as he tried to claim the recovery of the auto industry was down to his ideas being enacted by the president. but the awards committee knows that he would have done absolutely nothing to save the industry and its salvation is down to the president and the government. so no oscar for that. he might ask to be entered for best original song based upon several performances on the campaign trail. he didn't sing an orangeal song,
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but it was an orangeal performance. ♪ above the fruited plain ♪ america, america ♪ god shed his grace on thee ♪ and crown thy good with brotherho brotherhood ♪ >> so how about the big one? best actor. surely a man of mitt romney's stature and experience would take this one home. >> a couple times i wondered whether i was going to get a pink slip. i care very deeply about the american people. >> no. that was the least authentic, most bogus, fake, anxiety about unemployment that a guilded millionaire has ever given. he wouldn't even be nominated for that. so doesn't win for best adapted screen play, failed with best original song, and he's a no hope for best actor.
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however, the academy awards might in act of sympathy consider giving mr. romney the oscar for best visual effects because of his hair style. thanks so much for watching. dylan ratigan is next. the land of the bulls and the bears. not those bulls and bears, these bun ones. and they are not allowed to rig the game. so why should anyone else? our in our quest for 30 million jobs, we have observed two ways of doik business in america. making money by taking risk through aligned investment. >> this is a remarkably weird lightbulb. >> and making money by transferring that risk to someone else. heads, i win. tails, you lose. can we change the very definition of capitalism and still claim of the american


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